Xbox360 MTV Premiere Not Quite LiveBlogging Adventures

Kyle Orland (9:08:41 PM): Hey there, Kyle Orland and Dan Dormer here, chilling out 20 minutes before the premiere of MTV's Xbox 360 presentation on MTV. Say hi, Dan.
Dan Dormer (9:09:12 PM): Howdy, all. I think we're in for a treat tonight.
Kyle Orland (9:09:28 PM): Right now I'm enjoying the Real World Road Rules Challenge
Kyle Orland (9:09:42 PM): A perfect lead-in for an Xbox show if I've ever seen one
Dan Dormer (9:11:34 PM): I suppose. A mediocre spin-off of a reality show leading into what will be, undoubtedly, a glorified advertisement. Similar to the massive amounts of Ford trucks in a 24 without commercial breaks. Except those are more intense, and invoke nail biting.
Kyle Orland (9:13:13 PM): Personally, I'll be looking to see just how much gameplay footage is shown tonight. If there isn't much, it could indicate a tough time making the November 2005 launch date.
Kyle Orland (9:13:39 PM): If there's more mindless celebrity prattle than gameplay...
Kyle Orland (9:14:06 PM): "The momentous event is almost here..." just saw an ad
Kyle Orland (9:14:25 PM): With a special performance by The Killers! They're no Motley Crue, but...
Dan Dormer (9:15:13 PM): Well, I believe that we're going to see: J Allard talk about the HD-Era, laughable size comparisons of Elijah Wood to the Xbox, and "enough" trailers and gameplay footage to hold the hardcore crowd over till Monday evening.
Kyle Orland (9:15:50 PM): Yeah, that's a good call. Will the footage be actual gameplay or pre-rendered trailers?
Kyle Orland (9:16:03 PM): And will the audience be able to tell which is which
Kyle Orland (9:16:06 PM): ?
Dan Dormer (9:17:02 PM): I think if we see any type of footage, it'll be pre-rendered. I don't know if a clear distinction will be made by the programmers, though. In fact, I highly doubt it.
Dan Dormer (9:18:00 PM): The only exception I could think of is Perfect Dark Zero. We might see playable action of that game. Of course, I could be completely off the mark here.
Kyle Orland (9:18:20 PM): Any predictions for number of mentions of Halo?
Dan Dormer (9:19:26 PM): I say 10 times, but that's if they don't ask celebrities what their favorite games are.
Kyle Orland (9:20:00 PM): We'll be sure to keep count.
Kyle Orland (9:20:57 PM): Ten minutes to go... we're gonna take a quick break to get ready and type it out live during the show. Our full conversation will be posted a little after 10, so be sure to come on back once the show's over. See you then.

*Time Passes*
(Note: My computer clock is slow, so there chat logs are about 4 minutes before real time)

Kyle Orland (9:26:21 PM): Here we go!
Dan Dormer (9:26:32 PM): Ah, they're pushing the ability to play over the world.
Kyle Orland (9:26:34 PM): Wow, there's a lot of girls in this montage.
Kyle Orland (9:26:40 PM): CHEERS! APPLAUSE!
Dan Dormer (9:26:49 PM): Elijah!
Kyle Orland (9:27:00 PM): Pro gamers are cool
Dan Dormer (9:27:08 PM): I heard there is a Lord of the Rings tie-in.
Kyle Orland (9:27:10 PM): That looked like perfect dark
Dan Dormer (9:27:24 PM): The Pimp My Ride guys... wow.
Kyle Orland (9:27:37 PM): What's an Elijah Wood appearance without a Lord of the Rings reference
Dan Dormer (9:27:41 PM): JS: BIG MOMENT!
Dan Dormer (9:27:50 PM): It's like he's Reggie without the Nintendo fans.
Kyle Orland (9:27:54 PM): Obligatory history! Whee!
Kyle Orland (9:28:04 PM): Did Pac man just eat Asteroids?
Dan Dormer (9:28:13 PM): I like recognizing the indie music they play in these shows. I've already heard some Bloc Party and Tegen and Sara.
Kyle Orland (9:28:26 PM): PlayStation 2 does not exist. History... revised!
Kyle Orland (9:28:42 PM): The future of gaming is a girl in a blue dress?
Dan Dormer (9:28:47 PM): The future of gaming is a girl with a bag?
Kyle Orland (9:28:57 PM): She's the Xbox! OMG!
Kyle Orland (9:29:01 PM): oh, there it is
Kyle Orland (9:29:05 PM): Looks familiar...
Kyle Orland (9:29:10 PM): Wonder where I've seen it before
Dan Dormer (9:29:13 PM): Okay, that's a little better. This is too much for my tastes, though.
Kyle Orland (9:29:16 PM): Oh yeah.... EVERY GAMING WEBSITE
Kyle Orland (9:29:25 PM): interconnectivity?
Kyle Orland (9:29:28 PM): is that a word?
Dan Dormer (9:29:30 PM): They're pushing the customization factor a lot.
Dan Dormer (9:29:40 PM): Possibly. We'll check after the show.
Kyle Orland (9:29:54 PM): Time for the Killers, so we can talk instead of watch.
Dan Dormer (9:30:01 PM): Wow, there are like no real transitions.
Kyle Orland (9:30:08 PM): Elijah lied... he said it was the first time we had seen the system.
Kyle Orland (9:30:13 PM): LIAR!
Dan Dormer (9:30:29 PM): Well, I did see Halo on one of the screens.
Kyle Orland (9:30:36 PM): Is this Killers video running on an Xbox?
Kyle Orland (9:31:00 PM): There's certainly enough unecessary effects
Dan Dormer (9:31:12 PM): It wouldn't be inconceivable.
Dan Dormer (9:31:20 PM): Oh, that's not the case.
Kyle Orland (9:31:34 PM): Nope, looks like they're live
Dan Dormer (9:31:40 PM): Indeed.
Kyle Orland (9:31:43 PM): So far, it's not quite as bad as Spike TV
Kyle Orland (9:32:03 PM): But I'm still waiting for any real information
Dan Dormer (9:32:14 PM): Well, I gathered three tidbits.
Dan Dormer (9:32:43 PM): Always connected, personalization, and always hi-def.
Kyle Orland (9:32:54 PM): Hi-def... Duh!
Kyle Orland (9:33:04 PM): The Killers are.... still... singing
Dan Dormer (9:33:12 PM): Well, it is in widescreen.
Dan Dormer (9:33:26 PM): Even this show is prepped for hi-def, looks like.
Dan Dormer (9:33:37 PM): LIL' JON: FREE XBOX, YEAH!
Kyle Orland (9:33:47 PM): Wow, that was like 5 seconds of gameplay clips
Kyle Orland (9:33:54 PM): They looked a lot like Xbox 1 games though
Kyle Orland (9:34:02 PM): commercial-within-a-commercial time
Dan Dormer (9:34:04 PM): Oh, have you seen this commercial?
Dan Dormer (9:34:15 PM): There's a cellphone exclusive category.
Kyle Orland (9:34:19 PM): No I haven't... best VG based on a movie, eh?
Dan Dormer (9:34:24 PM): Yeah.
Kyle Orland (9:34:34 PM): wait, what's this?
Dan Dormer (9:34:37 PM): Does this count as a Halo mention?
Kyle Orland (9:34:40 PM): Samsung is pimping the Box!
Dan Dormer (9:34:45 PM): Because they were using the music.
Kyle Orland (9:35:02 PM): Not quite
Dan Dormer (9:35:09 PM): Ah, too bad.
Kyle Orland (9:35:24 PM): At this rate, the half hour's gonna be over and we will know next to nothing
Kyle Orland (9:35:33 PM): Maybe we should just read Kotaku's exclusive.
Dan Dormer (9:36:22 PM): I like the new look of the unit.
Kyle Orland (9:36:30 PM): Just kidding... what kind of mindless media consumers would we be then?
Kyle Orland (9:36:45 PM): Yeah, very sleek
Kyle Orland (9:36:59 PM): Not as boxy
Kyle Orland (9:37:11 PM): But I've thought that for weeks now
Kyle Orland (9:37:24 PM): We're back!
Kyle Orland (9:37:31 PM): Oh, no, another Samsung commercial
Dan Dormer (9:37:34 PM): No, not yet.
Kyle Orland (9:37:48 PM): Showing HDTV's on regular TVs never seemed to smart to me
Dan Dormer (9:37:51 PM): Will my Xbox 360 only work with a hi-def TV from Samsung?
Kyle Orland (9:37:53 PM): You can't tell how good it looks!
Dan Dormer (9:38:15 PM): And we're back.
Kyle Orland (9:38:17 PM): Samsung would like you to believe that
Kyle Orland (9:38:37 PM): Tony Hawk on Xbox Live... that's big
Dan Dormer (9:38:43 PM): American Wasteland - finally on Xbox Live!
Dan Dormer (9:38:49 PM): Tiger Wood's golf - nice render.
Kyle Orland (9:38:54 PM): Tiger Woods... looks OK
Dan Dormer (9:39:08 PM): Need for Speed, Madden - more renders.
Kyle Orland (9:39:12 PM): Most likely
Dan Dormer (9:39:19 PM): SWAY: THE HOLY GRAIL OF GAMING!
Kyle Orland (9:39:20 PM): Hard to tell for sure, but it doesn't look like real gameplay
Kyle Orland (9:39:31 PM): The west coast touch?
Dan Dormer (9:39:41 PM): Wait... they're pimping out a Xbox? I'm scared.
Kyle Orland (9:39:48 PM): They're putting it in a car?
Dan Dormer (9:39:56 PM): I think they're modding the unit itself.
Kyle Orland (9:39:57 PM): Remember... customizable!
Kyle Orland (9:40:03 PM): Oh, I see
Kyle Orland (9:40:07 PM): Halo!
Kyle Orland (9:40:11 PM): 1 (Halo Count)
Kyle Orland (9:40:27 PM): So this is an ad for Xbox... and for an MTV show
Kyle Orland (9:40:39 PM): Marketing... tooo... thick.... can't breath
Dan Dormer (9:40:52 PM): Wow, I wonder what type of crane they need to move that monster.
Kyle Orland (9:41:11 PM): They wouldn't let them pimp an Xbox360?
Dan Dormer (9:41:29 PM): Nope. They're not special enough.
Dan Dormer (9:41:36 PM): This seems a little interesting.
Kyle Orland (9:41:44 PM): Montage of designs... nice
Kyle Orland (9:41:50 PM): Wireless!
Dan Dormer (9:41:56 PM): I like seeing the evolution of the console design.
Kyle Orland (9:42:15 PM): Faceplates
Dan Dormer (9:42:21 PM): Customization. They're appealing to the current market.
Kyle Orland (9:42:21 PM): It's like a cell phone... but bigger
Dan Dormer (9:42:33 PM): They're selling people on the Xbox 360.
Kyle Orland (9:42:38 PM): Live Marketplace
Kyle Orland (9:42:42 PM): Buy buy buy
Dan Dormer (9:42:45 PM): JA: EBAY FOR VIRTUAL STUFF
Dan Dormer (9:42:58 PM): Halo!
Kyle Orland (9:43:05 PM): Why unlock outfits when you can spend real money on them?!
Kyle Orland (9:43:06 PM): 2 (Halo Count)
Dan Dormer (9:43:18 PM): Uber gamers.
Kyle Orland (9:43:32 PM): Inside Rare... that's a bit of a coup
Dan Dormer (9:43:51 PM): Okay, so how much more do we really know?
Dan Dormer (9:44:01 PM): Wireless, customization of faceplates, and downloadable content.
Kyle Orland (9:44:20 PM): All stuff that had been all but confirmed on the net
Kyle Orland (9:44:30 PM): But still news to most viewers, probably
Dan Dormer (9:44:43 PM): Okay, but maybe this is more digestible to many people who don't follow spec leaks.
Kyle Orland (9:44:48 PM): That Madden clip should get the masses salivating
Kyle Orland (9:44:58 PM): Even if it doesn't look very real
Kyle Orland (9:45:02 PM): i.e. gameplay
Dan Dormer (9:45:24 PM): So I'm saying there is a value to this program still, but I think they're being overly deceptive in terms of the graphic powers of the Xbox 360.
Kyle Orland (9:45:48 PM): Well, it's hard to say
Kyle Orland (9:45:55 PM): It could be a real-time rendering
Kyle Orland (9:46:04 PM): At the very least, it's unclear
Kyle Orland (9:46:12 PM): I doubt most viewers are even considering the issue, though
Dan Dormer (9:46:36 PM): Yeah, I think they just wanted the general info.
Kyle Orland (9:46:41 PM): No one has picked up a controller yet...
Kyle Orland (9:47:10 PM): Ten to one that'll be in the next segment
Dan Dormer (9:47:37 PM): Well, I think that's a definite since they promised a Perfect Dark Zero deathmatch.
Dan Dormer (9:47:44 PM): Back again.
Kyle Orland (9:47:46 PM): Oh yeah
Kyle Orland (9:47:50 PM): We're back
Kyle Orland (9:47:55 PM): He's in
Dan Dormer (9:48:06 PM): RC: Everyone is in.
Dan Dormer (9:48:30 PM): Gears of War, Tom Glancy, Project Gotham, Quake 4, Call of Duty 2, The Darkness, Saint's Row, etc.
Kyle Orland (9:48:34 PM): Wow
Dan Dormer (9:48:36 PM): I think I missed one or two.
Kyle Orland (9:48:38 PM): That was almost five seconds each
Kyle Orland (9:48:47 PM): NBA2K6
Kyle Orland (9:49:07 PM): He's very British
Dan Dormer (9:49:28 PM): Ah, such a typical girl gamer response.
Kyle Orland (9:49:39 PM): Pro gamer profiles... pretty nice
Kyle Orland (9:49:48 PM): Girl gamers tend to have pretty strong personalities, at least those in the media
Kyle Orland (9:50:29 PM): Wow, those wireframes are gonna sell tons of units
Dan Dormer (9:50:39 PM): I believe so.
Kyle Orland (9:50:52 PM): Pro gamer vs. celebs... this is gonna be a tough match
Dan Dormer (9:50:53 PM): He's sitting really close to them.
Dan Dormer (9:51:04 PM): 50 players or more?!
Kyle Orland (9:51:07 PM): 5,000 polys, 100,000 background, 50 players
Kyle Orland (9:51:13 PM): destructible stuff
Kyle Orland (9:51:20 PM): This guy could be a game journalist
Dan Dormer (9:51:33 PM): Wow, imagine if real journalists were more like that guy.
Dan Dormer (9:51:43 PM): Banjo!
Kyle Orland (9:52:03 PM): "elements I've never seen in any FPS..." such as?!?!?!
Kyle Orland (9:52:17 PM): Most of that looked like real gameplay
Dan Dormer (9:52:21 PM): They're obviously enjoying it. They weren't blinking.
Kyle Orland (9:52:27 PM): and also looked a lot like an Xbox 1 game
Kyle Orland (9:52:42 PM): "Don't touch me, I'm still playing." Wow
Kyle Orland (9:53:02 PM): Japanese hip hop star?
Kyle Orland (9:53:44 PM): They're not showing the players and the screen in the same shot...
Kyle Orland (9:53:51 PM): patched together later, I guess
Dan Dormer (9:54:02 PM): I can't tell where renders end and actual footage begins.
Kyle Orland (9:54:31 PM): The stuff with the split screen looked a little different (i.e. worse) than the stuff without
Dan Dormer (9:54:40 PM): Wow, that guy was taking the loss bad.
Kyle Orland (9:54:47 PM): ELIJAH: XBOX 360 IS GONNA BE AMAZING
Dan Dormer (9:54:49 PM): Xbox 360 universe?
Kyle Orland (9:55:15 PM): And closing out with the Killers
Dan Dormer (9:55:28 PM): Well, you don't hire a band for just one song.
Kyle Orland (9:55:35 PM): That was... fast
Dan Dormer (9:55:40 PM): Yeah, it was.
Kyle Orland (9:55:51 PM): I feel like we barely got to see the system.
Kyle Orland (9:56:19 PM): Looks like Perfect Dark Zero is gonna be the big game, as it was the only one playable.
Dan Dormer (9:56:40 PM): Well, they had information if you were looking for it.
Kyle Orland (9:57:12 PM): Yeah, and enough pizzazz to keep it from being dry. Not surprising given it's MTV.
Dan Dormer (9:57:30 PM): I think that, to people who don't read gaming sites heavily, it provided enough information. Would it sell them on a system? I'm not sure, and I think that's what MS was really trying to do tonight.
Kyle Orland (9:57:57 PM): Well, that list of games was prety impressive
Kyle Orland (9:58:10 PM): I'm not sure they were trying to outright sell the system as much as increase the mindshare
Kyle Orland (9:58:26 PM): Get people thinking about it in advance of more info. at E3 and the months before launch
Dan Dormer (9:59:21 PM): Those who really don't read game sites might have this as one of the only sources of information between now and launch.
Dan Dormer (9:59:45 PM): And I think that looking at it like that, I could put off buying an Xbox 360.
Kyle Orland (9:59:53 PM): Don't forget Microsoft ads
Kyle Orland (10:00:06 PM): Even if you don't read mags, those'll be in your face.
Kyle Orland (10:00:34 PM): They've got six more months to sell this thing... this was only the beginning.
Dan Dormer (10:01:23 PM): True. I just feel that with the time they had, Microsoft could have done more to inform viewers. Though, maybe they're hoping for increase curiosity on their part, and want them keeping up on info for the Xbox 360.
Kyle Orland (10:01:33 PM): We're five minutes into "Viva La Bam," anything you want to say before we sign off?
Dan Dormer (10:02:25 PM): I think I've said all I have to till Monday evening. Thanks for reading, and I was totally off on the amount of Halo mentions.
Kyle Orland (10:02:47 PM): Yeah... Perfect Dark is the new Halo it seems.
Kyle Orland (10:03:06 PM): Personally, I think this pretty much makes it Microsoft's E3 to lose.
Kyle Orland (10:03:39 PM): Media's gonna have to try real hard to cut through the buzz after this.
Kyle Orland (10:03:56 PM): Back to the grindstone... see you at E3, Dan.
Dan Dormer (10:04:12 PM): Yes indeed.

Editor's Note: Interconnectivity is a word